• Swampette
    Nov. 19, 2019, 10:15 a.m.

    I'm going to just come out and say it - I would rather eat live spiders than hold any semblance of a conversation with a co-worker. I don't care what you think your day is like, how many carbs a tomato has, or whether you think your daughter is sleeping with their physics professor.

    Since moving to a new building a few months ago, they've consolidated three of our buildings into this one office and people are everywhere. At this point I discovered an elegantly simple solution - if I smile at people, without breaking stride, I don't even have to acknowledge them. I even get the occasional compliment from my boss for being friendly when all I've done is find the most efficient way of ignoring people.

    Yesterday I encountered my first snag in this plan. I received an email suggesting I had volunteered for a food drive. Given that I had never spoken to the sender (frankly I didn't even recognize them), I don't know how that's possible, but they were confirming my time slot.

    Luckily, I had a definitely-real-definitely-not-impromptu conference call at the same time, so I wormed out of it, but now I can't seem to shake that I may have inadvertently agreed to Lord knows what around the office and won't see it coming till it bites me in the proverbial.

  • Certified Good Poster™
    Nov. 19, 2019, 10:33 a.m.

    I definitely empathize with figuring out ways to elegantly pass people in the halls. I consider myself a social person, extroverted at times even; but I need my barriers to survive.

    My quality of work, perceived productiveness, and off-hours relaxation has vastly improved once I realized "I'm not an asshole for not making eye contact and plugging in my headphones, it's what is required of me to do my job." I also have the distinct luxury of dozens of coffee-shop like atmospheres to dip into on campus, but I still have to do the dance of being present at the beginning and end of the day.

    That dance — what is supposed to be a half hour standup — is quickly becoming a 2 hour daily thorn in my side. The half hour before standup is a waste while I finish one drink, get another, think of what convincing thing I should say in standup, and shoot the shit until the meeting begins. Then we inevitably go over 15 minutes because why not. Then, after the coffee shits are taken care of, maybe I can finally settle down into some work.

    I like the vast majority of my coworkers, save for a bullheaded developer or the occasional moments where a partner's personality quirks rub me the wrong way. I can't tell if I'm depressed or satisfied with the fact that I've been relatively successful at carefully keeping people at the right arms' length away to do my job and make it pleasant. It's dreadfully alienating at times but I'm not even sure I'd want to labor alongside close, personal friends. More data needed on the possibility of co-mingling meaningful socialization and wage survival. (Though, it was pretty doable when I worked in the trenches in the marketing agency... Maybe I need to ditch cushy corporate offices for fast paced, i.e. overworked ad agency floors filled with miserable, yet interesting millenials. My nickname here is Junior. )

    I am interested at finally getting to work in a smaller company, though. It's really easy for me to not give a shit about or even resent a lot of my coworkers who I simply don't know and will never know on our huge campus. Similarly, I don't want to network with the engineers in Org X unless it's demonstrable that it might positively impact my career to do so, which often just means currying favor with my manager...

    Jeez, I make it sound bleak. But, it all helps me sleep at night, lowers my blood pressure, and allows me to enjoy my time with my fiancee more. Call it self care in the post-Office-Space era.

  • Swampette
    Nov. 19, 2019, 11:38 a.m.

    My brother in law and my best friend are on my team at work. Honestly, if nothing else, they provide checks and balances to workplace politics. My friend openly challenges the way I talk or act, which helps me ensure I don't rub people the wrong way. My brother in law acts as a gauge of interest in what's going on in the office - if he is disinterested in something, I know it is appropriate to me to act the same way.

    I would advise you heavily consider other options before this. The agency teams I am required to work with are often significantly worse than my day-to-day fare. Because of the stress of their typical workload, they constantly find shallow distractions to pester or make small talk about. I can't tell you how many times an agency call ran long because it was an excuse for them to not get back to work.

  • Members 90 posts
    Nov. 19, 2019, 2:57 p.m.

    Are you me?

    Also, on the topic of working with people close to you, it's been positive for me. I worked with my partner for 3 years. While it was sometimes difficult to navigate getting space from each other, I think it helped us understand each other in ways you might not otherwise get exposure to. I was able to see first-hand the ways my partner fights for the people around her, and the how she would selflessly take on high-pressure situations. And it was nice having somebody just understand the shit you have to go through. Likewise, working with your brother has been all upside. He helps me see the bigger picture of how my team fits in, and it's swell having somebody that will advocate for you.

  • Members 27 posts
    Nov. 19, 2019, 4:33 p.m.

    ❤️~ (=´∇`=)

  • Certified Good Poster™
    Nov. 19, 2019, 5:51 p.m.

    Ok, I was definitely too hasty on the no working with friends and ditching my job for bad agency (although I am interested in some web shops I've worked with in Portland thru my employer, class acts some of them). I just miss all my Seattle fwends!!

  • Dec. 2, 2019, 9:45 a.m.

    Meant to comment on this but never did, but here I am because I'm waiting on our DBA to give me permission to a schema.

    At my last place when I rode the bus, I used to get in around 7:30am. This served two purposes: 1) the bus was usually not very full and 2) I had some time to myself in the day without scientists peppering me with request/questions/meetings. At my new place, I started doing the same thing for at least reason #1. I soon found out that my office which seats 50-60 people usually only has about a dozen or so max who come in regularly. One of those regulars is on my team, sits right next to me, and arrives at about the same time I do. While I immediately started mourning the loss of my sacred early-hours alone time, we had a convo within my first week which was essentially "neither of us like interruptions, messaging is good even if we sit right next to each other, we don't have to small talk in the morning when we both get in". For that, I am thankful.

    The other member of my team who sits next to me is quite the opposite. They'll speak to their computer frequently as prompts for other people to chime in ("Oh I didn't expect that to be there" looks around to see if anyone heard; "That's why I always say you need to get the person who's in charge of the project involved" to some conversation no one can see but them) - all of these, once acknowledged, will start a whole conversation from their end about the topic at hand that they've now thrust out into the world. I wear headphones at work because, while I like going into work for the headspace, I get distracted extremely easily and lose a ton of progress from frequent switches. This coworker does not (I guess) because they're switching things every 5 minutes. My headphones are apparently no deterrent for talking at me. At one point I was very visibly in a call and they started talking at me, at which point I just looked at them and said "I'm in a call right now". That at least gave me an hours worth of respite. My only saving grace is that they're frequently remote. I like this coworker on an interpersonal level but boy howdy do they not understand distractions.

  • Certified Good Poster™
    Dec. 2, 2019, 11:47 a.m.

    Are you me? My daily existing is this, minus the peace of remote work, because the culture here is extremely butts in seats.

  • Dec. 2, 2019, 3:57 p.m.

    These People Make Open Office Living Hell - A Treatise

  • Jan. 28, 2020, 12:28 p.m.

    Today's incident: That One Coworker™ starts laughing at their screen a bunch, throws their arms around, and stares at me expectantly. I'm 14 pages deep into documentation about something I'm having trouble understanding, so I try to ignore it and focus on finding the answer I'm looking for. All social cues aside, she starts talking at me and telling me this very funny thing about the query she's working on. I pull out my headphones to discuss it a bit with her, since now there's no avoiding it. She gets comfy in her seat and starts ranting to me about database field types. After a few minutes of this I say "well, I'm distracted, so I guess that's lunch for me" and walk away.

    This was after her telling me 20 minutes before that she didn't have time to answer a question I had because the stuff she was working on was "too urgent" (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻